27th
Oct
2007
Oct
2007
A day with good discussions in IRC
Today, I had my first active discussion in #smc-project IRC. The chat was mainly related to a web crawler project, which programming language to study. The discussion log follows…
Conversation with #smc-project at 27/10/2007 9:23:32 PM on tvmanukrishnan@irc.freenode.net (irc)
(9:23:32 PM) The topic for #smc-project is: Save Kannada Campaign http://savekannada.googlepages.com/ | സ്വതന്ത്ര വിവരത്തിന്റെ ഭൂതങ്ങള്‍ :എബന്‍ മോഗ്ലനുമായി അഭിമുഖം ഫ്രണ്ട്ലൈനില്‍ http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/stories/20071019507610000.htm
(9:23:55 PM) santhosh: tvmanukrishnan: hello manu
(9:24:03 PM) tvmanukrishnan: hi
(9:24:15 PM) santhosh: എത് കോളേജിലാ പഠിക്കുന്നത്?
(9:25:04 PM) tvmanukrishnan: MES kuttippuram
(9:25:35 PM) santhosh: പുലികളെല്ലാം ഒരു കോളേജിലാണല്ലോ 🙂
(9:25:42 PM) aeshyamae: മൂപ്പര് cse first year..:)
(9:25:57 PM) santhosh: മനു , നമ്മുടെ സൈറ്റ് എന്തായി..
(9:26:22 PM) tvmanukrishnan: ethey told malayalam cannot be allowed
(9:26:41 PM) aeshyamae: they?
(9:26:42 PM) tvmanukrishnan: searching for a good freehost
(9:26:50 PM) tvmanukrishnan: the hosting people
(9:26:59 PM) santhosh: ഉം
(9:27:13 PM) santhosh: മനുവിന് പൈത്തണ്‍ അറിയാമോ?
(9:27:30 PM) tvmanukrishnan: illa
(9:27:49 PM) santhosh: പേള്‍?
(9:28:23 PM) tvmanukrishnan: njan ippol php padikkunnu
(9:28:29 PM) santhosh: കുഴപ്പമില്ല നമൂക്കൊരു പ്രൊജക്ട് ചെയ്യേണ്ടതുണ്ട്.
(9:28:46 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I am more intrested in web related
(9:28:52 PM) santhosh: എന്താന്നു വച്ചാല്‍ നമ്മുടെ കോര്‍പ്പസ് പ്രൊജക്ടിന് വേണ്ടിയാ..
(9:28:56 PM) tvmanukrishnan: shyam told me
(9:29:02 PM) santhosh: അതു തന്നെ
(9:29:05 PM) santhosh: ഒരു ക്രോളര്‍ വേണം
(9:29:31 PM) santhosh: നമ്മുടെ ബ്ലോഗുകള്‍, വിക്കിപ്പീഡിയ എന്നിവയിലൊക്കെ തപ്പി,
(9:29:51 PM) santhosh: മലയാളം അരിച്ചെടുത്തോണ്ടു വരണം
(9:30:08 PM) santhosh: കണ്ണിക്കണ്ടത് എടുക്കാനും പാടില്ല.
(9:30:20 PM) santhosh: കുറച്ചൊക്കെ ബുദ്ധിവേണംന്ന് സാരം
(9:30:25 PM) tvmanukrishnan: piine?
(9:31:15 PM) santhosh: നിലവില്‍ എന്തെങ്കിലും ടൂളുണ്ടോ എന്നറിയില്ല
(9:31:30 PM) santhosh: ഇല്ലെങ്കില്‍ ഒരെണ്ണം എഴുതണം..
(9:31:32 PM) santhosh: എന്താ നോക്കുന്നോ
(9:31:35 PM) tvmanukrishnan: blogugalil ninnu vegam kittum
(9:32:04 PM) tvmanukrishnan: wordpress has got something like that
(9:32:21 PM) santhosh: അതു ടാഗുകളെ അടിസ്ഥാനമാക്കി തരംതിരിക്കണം
(9:32:40 PM) aeshyamae: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_crawler#Open-source_crawlers
(9:33:03 PM) santhosh: ഞാനിതിനേ പറ്റി പഠിച്ചിട്ടില്ല. എല്ലാം മനുവിന്റെ ഇഷ്ടം..
(9:33:09 PM) santhosh: ഞാന്‍ കണ്ടിട്ടുണ്ട്
(9:33:17 PM) santhosh: പക്ഷേ ഒരു പ്രശനമുണ്ട്
(9:33:40 PM) santhosh: ഭാഷയുടെ അടിസ്ഥാനത്തിലാണ് നമുക്ക് വേണ്ടത്
(9:33:43 PM) tvmanukrishnan: enthanu?
(9:33:56 PM) santhosh: ചിലപ്പോ കസ്റ്റമൈസ് ചെയ്യേണ്ടി വരും
(9:34:31 PM) tvmanukrishnan: So, first have to study the way malayalm words are displayed
(9:34:52 PM) santhosh: ഒന്നുമില്ല യുണിക്കൊഡ് നോക്കിയാ മതി
(9:35:13 PM) santhosh: അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ p{Malayalam} എന്ന റെഗുലര്‍ എക്സ്പ്രഷന്‍ മതി
(9:35:58 PM) tvmanukrishnan: njan onnu firefoxinde plugin development sectionil poyi nokatte
(9:35:59 PM) santhosh: ഇതിനെപറ്റി ഒന്നു നോക്കാമോ? താത്പര്യമുണ്ടെങ്കില്‍?
(9:36:16 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I am not sure, but ‘ll give it a try
(9:36:34 PM) santhosh: അടുത്ത പ്രൊജക്ട് ഫയര്‍ഫോക്സുമായി ബന്ധപ്പെട്ടതാണ്. 🙂
(9:36:42 PM) santhosh: xul അറിയാമോ?
(9:36:58 PM) tvmanukrishnan: illa
(9:37:11 PM) tvmanukrishnan: appol munbu paranjathu oru stand alone ano?
(9:37:24 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I thought something attached to browsers
(9:37:37 PM) santhosh: അത് വേറെ പ്രൊജക്ട്
(9:37:46 PM) santhosh: ഇപ്പൊ പറയുന്നത് വേറെ 🙂
(9:38:03 PM) aeshyamae: 🙂
(9:38:19 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I just got confused
(9:38:42 PM) santhosh: ബ്ലോഗിങ്ങിന് വേണ്ടി അനിവറിന് ഒരു ഫയര്‍ ഫോക്സ് extension ചെയ്താല്‍ കൊള്ളാമെന്നുണ്ട്
(9:38:55 PM) santhosh: അതാണ് രണ്ടാമത്തെ പ്രൊജക്ട് ..
(9:39:02 PM) tvmanukrishnan: k
(9:39:12 PM) aeshyamae: ഞാനവനോടതാ പറഞ്ഞെ
(9:39:18 PM) santhosh: താത്പര്യമുണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ അനിവറുമായി ബന്ധപ്പെടൂ
(9:39:47 PM) tvmanukrishnan: shyam, I got a bit confused
(9:39:49 PM) santhosh: ആദ്യത്തേത് ഒരു stand alone project
(9:39:51 PM) santhosh: not for users
(9:39:56 PM) santhosh: only for us
(9:39:57 PM) aeshyamae: A web crawler (also known as a web spider or web robot) is a program or automated script which browses the World Wide Web in a methodical, automated manner
(9:40:10 PM) aeshyamae: (from wikipedia)
(9:40:19 PM) santhosh: the second one is another project for users
(9:40:29 PM) santhosh: manu, u understood right?
(9:40:30 PM) tvmanukrishnan: k
(9:40:50 PM) santhosh: ok, so think about this and come up with ideas 🙂
(9:41:10 PM) santhosh: shyam, it seems our corpus project will get some finding from gov.
(9:41:20 PM) santhosh: not usre. Anivar told me that
(9:41:26 PM) santhosh: *funding
(9:41:34 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I think the first one could be done with PHP and mySQL but, will be web based?
(9:41:51 PM) santhosh: yes, manu
(9:42:07 PM) santhosh: we just need to get the web content to our hard disk
(9:42:23 PM) tvmanukrishnan: scrolls web pages and saves it to a database?
(9:42:25 PM) santhosh: then classify it based on tags
(9:42:36 PM) santhosh: databse or local harddisk
(9:42:53 PM) tvmanukrishnan: doing it from a server gives us more time to search pages
(9:43:29 PM) santhosh: I have one puthon scroller
(9:43:30 PM) tvmanukrishnan: and may be with XAMPP, we could implement in in a desktop too….
(9:43:46 PM) santhosh: yes
(9:43:59 PM) santhosh: it doesnot need a webserver I guess
(9:44:15 PM) tvmanukrishnan: yeah
(9:44:25 PM) smash_ [n=guest@202.83.54.84] entered the room.
(9:44:35 PM) aeshyamae: smash_: hi
(9:44:39 PM) santhosh: python has manu apis for this
(9:44:40 PM) tvmanukrishnan: A few days ago, i was a bit confused about which language to study
(9:44:50 PM) smash_: hi everyone..
(9:45:01 PM) s2rth [i=3b5d07ba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-cdd49d77a54cbef4] entered the room.
(9:45:07 PM) tvmanukrishnan: atlast with discussion with shyam and a few others, i opted for PHP
(9:45:10 PM) s2rth: hi
(9:45:24 PM) santhosh: ആരാ ? ഒന്ന് പരിചയപ്പെടുത്താമോ?
(9:45:29 PM) aeshyamae: smash_: is tuxmaniac
(9:45:45 PM) s2rth: sarath
(9:46:24 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I think there won’t be much time for studying two languages at a time
(9:46:39 PM) aeshyamae: sarath lakshman
(9:46:39 PM) smash_: smash… mobin
(9:46:39 PM) aeshyamae: oo sorry
(9:46:39 PM) santhosh: കൊള്ളാം 🙂
(9:46:39 PM) s2rth: 🙂
(9:46:41 PM) smash_: 🙂
(9:46:41 PM) santhosh: I think python has more advantage than php
(9:46:41 PM) s2rth: watz the hot discussion here?
(9:46:41 PM) aeshyamae: എല്ലാരേം വിളിച്ചോണ്ട് വന്നു ഇനി സംസാരിച്ചോളു
(9:46:41 PM) s2rth: definitely.. python is great than php
(9:46:42 PM) santhosh: means u can use at desktop as well as web
(9:46:57 PM) tvmanukrishnan: k
(9:47:02 PM) santhosh: discussion: a webcrawler to filter malayalam content. which language
(9:47:08 PM) santhosh: and which language to study
(9:47:15 PM) s2rth: ok ok
(9:47:22 PM) smash_: ok
(9:47:23 PM) s2rth: python seems nice
(9:47:34 PM) s2rth: we can code less
(9:48:14 PM) santhosh: manu, I have wrote a small crawler in python
(9:48:16 PM) s2rth: and good effect… i feel so
(9:48:16 PM) santhosh: just 100 lines
(9:48:16 PM) santhosh: many apis are there
(9:48:16 PM) santhosh: learning a new language is not a problem
(9:48:16 PM) s2rth: may i see the code?
(9:48:19 PM) tvmanukrishnan: yeah but I don’t have much referance books or so and another thing, still not configured my GPRS modem in debian so that I could refer net from there
(9:48:29 PM) santhosh: if u have a computer scientist approach
(9:48:37 PM) santhosh: am I right? others?
(9:48:41 PM) smash_: oh… great..
(9:48:48 PM) smash_: great work santhosh..
(9:48:51 PM) s2rth: yea.
(9:49:17 PM) santhosh: I did not see any difficult in studying new language
(9:49:26 PM) santhosh: just undestand syntax, thats all
(9:49:30 PM) s2rth: i’m excited to read that 100 lines crawler 🙂
(9:49:42 PM) santhosh: rest is logic. and that is same for all languages
(9:49:45 PM) tvmanukrishnan: but different languages at the same time?
(9:49:46 PM) s2rth: but python is easier than any other lang
(9:49:48 PM) santhosh: I will send it to ypu guys
(9:50:20 PM) santhosh: manu, it is not difficult. actially it is more helpful
(9:50:40 PM) smash_: i too think python is the better choice..
(9:50:40 PM) santhosh: relating the concept with more languages
(9:50:42 PM) tvmanukrishnan: may be I’d switch to python but can anyone help me in configuring the GPRS modem?
(9:51:03 PM) santhosh: sarath, any idea with gprs modem?
(9:51:20 PM) tvmanukrishnan: and It will be great to use net from Debian
(9:51:39 PM) s2rth: no 🙁
(9:51:41 PM) santhosh: I never worked with gprs,
(9:51:41 PM) s2rth: me too never did
(9:51:41 PM) s2rth: in knoppix i had seen some gprs config utility
(9:51:41 PM) s2rth: try that
(9:51:41 PM) santhosh: manu, get help from shyam, enter some IRC and ask
(9:52:25 PM) jinsbond007 [i=c40c3509@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-28269d16ab79659a] entered the room.
(9:52:30 PM) aeshyamae: manu,come to me monday i have my class mate entering net from debian…controlling his debian from mobile with bluetooth and all
(9:52:42 PM) tvmanukrishnan: shyam told me abt a GPRS data connect software www.easyconnect.linuxuser.hu
(9:52:51 PM) tvmanukrishnan: but mine is data cabl
(9:53:07 PM) aeshyamae: hmm we will see
(9:53:37 PM) tvmanukrishnan: downloaded it. But still needs megs of software along withit, related to pearl to install
(9:54:13 PM) tvmanukrishnan: Shyam shall i give you my cable and phone tomorrow to you?
(9:54:42 PM) tvmanukrishnan: means monday?
(9:55:58 PM) santhosh: friends, hope you guys will be attending foss.in
(9:56:12 PM) santhosh: today they published the selected list of speakers
(9:56:18 PM) aeshyamae: i too have never tried bluetooth…ma friend should know that..we will talk abt that on monday
(9:56:34 PM) santhosh: myself, shyam,baiju are selected
(9:56:53 PM) santhosh: shyam, pramod sir is there?
(9:57:28 PM) aeshyamae: ya
(9:57:39 PM) smash_: yes… santhosh.
(9:57:41 PM) aeshyamae: he is talking abt free bird
(9:57:41 PM) santhosh: Pramode C.E – FreeBird – A GNU/Linux based mobile robotics platform for introductory Computer Science and Engineering education.
(9:57:41 PM) santhosh: yes, he is there
(9:57:51 PM) s2rth: Freebird.. sounds very interesting
(9:58:29 PM) santhosh: did you watch the video?
(9:58:29 PM) aeshyamae: GREAT!! to see free bird in his blogg..debian,cameraa,…….!!!!
(9:58:29 PM) aeshyamae: no
(9:58:29 PM) santhosh: it is amazing
(10:00:30 PM) santhosh: he has uploaded that video in google video
(10:00:30 PM) santhosh: shyam, link is there in his blog
(10:00:30 PM) s2rth: yea i saw the video
(10:00:31 PM) aeshyamae: ya,,ok i saw that yesturday but have to wait till the next unlimited time to download it..its bandwidth dieting here:)i am just touching my 2.5gb limit this month
(10:00:31 PM) santhosh: friends, think about a gnu robot speaking malayalam and understanding malayalam
(10:00:31 PM) aeshyamae: 🙂
(10:00:34 PM) santhosh: I think he has a plan to do that
(10:01:22 PM) s2rth: 🙂
(10:04:28 PM) santhosh: അപ്പഴേ ഞാന്‍ പോണൂ, മനു ഞാന്‍ പറഞ്ഞ പ്രൊജക്ടിനെ പറ്റി ചിന്തിക്കൂ.
(10:04:48 PM) santhosh: ബാക്കിയുള്ളോര്‍ക്ക് എന്റെ ഹര്‍ത്താലാശംസകള്‍
(10:04:59 PM) s2rth: 🙂
(10:05:00 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I just googled abt web crawlers and found most are programmed in java
(10:05:55 PM) santhosh: ശരത്, ഞാന്‍ ക്രോളര്‍ അയച്ചു തരാം
(10:06:59 PM) tvmanukrishnan: For me too… that crawler
(10:07:31 PM) s2rth: ok 🙂
(10:07:43 PM) santhosh: മനൂ മെയിലൈഡി പറ
(10:08:07 PM) tvmanukrishnan: tvm@bizzard.info
(10:10:12 PM) santhosh: എല്ലാവര്‍ക്കും വേണ്ടി ഞാനൊരു പാട്ടു പാടാം
(10:10:18 PM) santhosh: എന്നിട്ടു പോകാം
(10:10:19 PM) aeshyamae: haha:)
(10:10:26 PM) tvmanukrishnan: k
(10:10:27 PM) santhosh: ചിത്രം: ചില്ല്
(10:10:28 PM) santhosh: രചന: ഒ. എന്‍. വി
(10:10:28 PM) santhosh: ഒരു വട്ടം കൂടിയെന്നോര്‍മ്മകള്‍ മേയുന്ന
(10:10:28 PM) santhosh: തിരുമുറ്റത്തെത്തുവാന്‍ മോഹം
(10:10:28 PM) santhosh: തിരുമുറ്റത്തൊരു കോണില്‍ നില്‍ക്കുന്നൊരാ നെല്ലി-
(10:10:32 PM) santhosh left the room (quit: Excess Flood).
(10:11:26 PM) s2rth: hostel jailil irunnu madukkumbol computer use cheyyan moham…
(10:11:50 PM) s2rth: gnu/linux boot cheyyan moham
(10:12:30 PM) s2rth: 😀
(10:13:16 PM) s2rth: shyam, wat abt advancement of sharika
(10:13:17 PM) s2rth: ?
(10:14:46 PM) aeshyamae: 🙁 will try to release soon…hopes to release it as a standard..doing something on each part it should have
(10:14:59 PM) s2rth: k
(10:15:46 PM) jinsbond007: hi all nice to see lively discussions ovr here…
(10:18:24 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I have got a bad cold and lot of college works to do…. And also, a new site: for Orkut scraps collection…. just started: http://www.bizzard.info/scrapper/ So, catch you all later…..
(10:18:29 PM) tvmanukrishnan: Gud Ni8
(10:18:45 PM) tvmanukrishnan: and thanks for the nice discussion
(9:23:55 PM) santhosh: tvmanukrishnan: hello manu
(9:24:03 PM) tvmanukrishnan: hi
(9:24:15 PM) santhosh: എത് കോളേജിലാ പഠിക്കുന്നത്?
(9:25:04 PM) tvmanukrishnan: MES kuttippuram
(9:25:35 PM) santhosh: പുലികളെല്ലാം ഒരു കോളേജിലാണല്ലോ 🙂
(9:25:42 PM) aeshyamae: മൂപ്പര് cse first year..:)
(9:25:57 PM) santhosh: മനു , നമ്മുടെ സൈറ്റ് എന്തായി..
(9:26:22 PM) tvmanukrishnan: ethey told malayalam cannot be allowed
(9:26:41 PM) aeshyamae: they?
(9:26:42 PM) tvmanukrishnan: searching for a good freehost
(9:26:50 PM) tvmanukrishnan: the hosting people
(9:26:59 PM) santhosh: ഉം
(9:27:13 PM) santhosh: മനുവിന് പൈത്തണ്‍ അറിയാമോ?
(9:27:30 PM) tvmanukrishnan: illa
(9:27:49 PM) santhosh: പേള്‍?
(9:28:23 PM) tvmanukrishnan: njan ippol php padikkunnu
(9:28:29 PM) santhosh: കുഴപ്പമില്ല നമൂക്കൊരു പ്രൊജക്ട് ചെയ്യേണ്ടതുണ്ട്.
(9:28:46 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I am more intrested in web related
(9:28:52 PM) santhosh: എന്താന്നു വച്ചാല്‍ നമ്മുടെ കോര്‍പ്പസ് പ്രൊജക്ടിന് വേണ്ടിയാ..
(9:28:56 PM) tvmanukrishnan: shyam told me
(9:29:02 PM) santhosh: അതു തന്നെ
(9:29:05 PM) santhosh: ഒരു ക്രോളര്‍ വേണം
(9:29:31 PM) santhosh: നമ്മുടെ ബ്ലോഗുകള്‍, വിക്കിപ്പീഡിയ എന്നിവയിലൊക്കെ തപ്പി,
(9:29:51 PM) santhosh: മലയാളം അരിച്ചെടുത്തോണ്ടു വരണം
(9:30:08 PM) santhosh: കണ്ണിക്കണ്ടത് എടുക്കാനും പാടില്ല.
(9:30:20 PM) santhosh: കുറച്ചൊക്കെ ബുദ്ധിവേണംന്ന് സാരം
(9:30:25 PM) tvmanukrishnan: piine?
(9:31:15 PM) santhosh: നിലവില്‍ എന്തെങ്കിലും ടൂളുണ്ടോ എന്നറിയില്ല
(9:31:30 PM) santhosh: ഇല്ലെങ്കില്‍ ഒരെണ്ണം എഴുതണം..
(9:31:32 PM) santhosh: എന്താ നോക്കുന്നോ
(9:31:35 PM) tvmanukrishnan: blogugalil ninnu vegam kittum
(9:32:04 PM) tvmanukrishnan: wordpress has got something like that
(9:32:21 PM) santhosh: അതു ടാഗുകളെ അടിസ്ഥാനമാക്കി തരംതിരിക്കണം
(9:32:40 PM) aeshyamae: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_crawler#Open-source_crawlers
(9:33:03 PM) santhosh: ഞാനിതിനേ പറ്റി പഠിച്ചിട്ടില്ല. എല്ലാം മനുവിന്റെ ഇഷ്ടം..
(9:33:09 PM) santhosh: ഞാന്‍ കണ്ടിട്ടുണ്ട്
(9:33:17 PM) santhosh: പക്ഷേ ഒരു പ്രശനമുണ്ട്
(9:33:40 PM) santhosh: ഭാഷയുടെ അടിസ്ഥാനത്തിലാണ് നമുക്ക് വേണ്ടത്
(9:33:43 PM) tvmanukrishnan: enthanu?
(9:33:56 PM) santhosh: ചിലപ്പോ കസ്റ്റമൈസ് ചെയ്യേണ്ടി വരും
(9:34:31 PM) tvmanukrishnan: So, first have to study the way malayalm words are displayed
(9:34:52 PM) santhosh: ഒന്നുമില്ല യുണിക്കൊഡ് നോക്കിയാ മതി
(9:35:13 PM) santhosh: അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ p{Malayalam} എന്ന റെഗുലര്‍ എക്സ്പ്രഷന്‍ മതി
(9:35:58 PM) tvmanukrishnan: njan onnu firefoxinde plugin development sectionil poyi nokatte
(9:35:59 PM) santhosh: ഇതിനെപറ്റി ഒന്നു നോക്കാമോ? താത്പര്യമുണ്ടെങ്കില്‍?
(9:36:16 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I am not sure, but ‘ll give it a try
(9:36:34 PM) santhosh: അടുത്ത പ്രൊജക്ട് ഫയര്‍ഫോക്സുമായി ബന്ധപ്പെട്ടതാണ്. 🙂
(9:36:42 PM) santhosh: xul അറിയാമോ?
(9:36:58 PM) tvmanukrishnan: illa
(9:37:11 PM) tvmanukrishnan: appol munbu paranjathu oru stand alone ano?
(9:37:24 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I thought something attached to browsers
(9:37:37 PM) santhosh: അത് വേറെ പ്രൊജക്ട്
(9:37:46 PM) santhosh: ഇപ്പൊ പറയുന്നത് വേറെ 🙂
(9:38:03 PM) aeshyamae: 🙂
(9:38:19 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I just got confused
(9:38:42 PM) santhosh: ബ്ലോഗിങ്ങിന് വേണ്ടി അനിവറിന് ഒരു ഫയര്‍ ഫോക്സ് extension ചെയ്താല്‍ കൊള്ളാമെന്നുണ്ട്
(9:38:55 PM) santhosh: അതാണ് രണ്ടാമത്തെ പ്രൊജക്ട് ..
(9:39:02 PM) tvmanukrishnan: k
(9:39:12 PM) aeshyamae: ഞാനവനോടതാ പറഞ്ഞെ
(9:39:18 PM) santhosh: താത്പര്യമുണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ അനിവറുമായി ബന്ധപ്പെടൂ
(9:39:47 PM) tvmanukrishnan: shyam, I got a bit confused
(9:39:49 PM) santhosh: ആദ്യത്തേത് ഒരു stand alone project
(9:39:51 PM) santhosh: not for users
(9:39:56 PM) santhosh: only for us
(9:39:57 PM) aeshyamae: A web crawler (also known as a web spider or web robot) is a program or automated script which browses the World Wide Web in a methodical, automated manner
(9:40:10 PM) aeshyamae: (from wikipedia)
(9:40:19 PM) santhosh: the second one is another project for users
(9:40:29 PM) santhosh: manu, u understood right?
(9:40:30 PM) tvmanukrishnan: k
(9:40:50 PM) santhosh: ok, so think about this and come up with ideas 🙂
(9:41:10 PM) santhosh: shyam, it seems our corpus project will get some finding from gov.
(9:41:20 PM) santhosh: not usre. Anivar told me that
(9:41:26 PM) santhosh: *funding
(9:41:34 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I think the first one could be done with PHP and mySQL but, will be web based?
(9:41:51 PM) santhosh: yes, manu
(9:42:07 PM) santhosh: we just need to get the web content to our hard disk
(9:42:23 PM) tvmanukrishnan: scrolls web pages and saves it to a database?
(9:42:25 PM) santhosh: then classify it based on tags
(9:42:36 PM) santhosh: databse or local harddisk
(9:42:53 PM) tvmanukrishnan: doing it from a server gives us more time to search pages
(9:43:29 PM) santhosh: I have one puthon scroller
(9:43:30 PM) tvmanukrishnan: and may be with XAMPP, we could implement in in a desktop too….
(9:43:46 PM) santhosh: yes
(9:43:59 PM) santhosh: it doesnot need a webserver I guess
(9:44:15 PM) tvmanukrishnan: yeah
(9:44:25 PM) smash_ [n=guest@202.83.54.84] entered the room.
(9:44:35 PM) aeshyamae: smash_: hi
(9:44:39 PM) santhosh: python has manu apis for this
(9:44:40 PM) tvmanukrishnan: A few days ago, i was a bit confused about which language to study
(9:44:50 PM) smash_: hi everyone..
(9:45:01 PM) s2rth [i=3b5d07ba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-cdd49d77a54cbef4] entered the room.
(9:45:07 PM) tvmanukrishnan: atlast with discussion with shyam and a few others, i opted for PHP
(9:45:10 PM) s2rth: hi
(9:45:24 PM) santhosh: ആരാ ? ഒന്ന് പരിചയപ്പെടുത്താമോ?
(9:45:29 PM) aeshyamae: smash_: is tuxmaniac
(9:45:45 PM) s2rth: sarath
(9:46:24 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I think there won’t be much time for studying two languages at a time
(9:46:39 PM) aeshyamae: sarath lakshman
(9:46:39 PM) smash_: smash… mobin
(9:46:39 PM) aeshyamae: oo sorry
(9:46:39 PM) santhosh: കൊള്ളാം 🙂
(9:46:39 PM) s2rth: 🙂
(9:46:41 PM) smash_: 🙂
(9:46:41 PM) santhosh: I think python has more advantage than php
(9:46:41 PM) s2rth: watz the hot discussion here?
(9:46:41 PM) aeshyamae: എല്ലാരേം വിളിച്ചോണ്ട് വന്നു ഇനി സംസാരിച്ചോളു
(9:46:41 PM) s2rth: definitely.. python is great than php
(9:46:42 PM) santhosh: means u can use at desktop as well as web
(9:46:57 PM) tvmanukrishnan: k
(9:47:02 PM) santhosh: discussion: a webcrawler to filter malayalam content. which language
(9:47:08 PM) santhosh: and which language to study
(9:47:15 PM) s2rth: ok ok
(9:47:22 PM) smash_: ok
(9:47:23 PM) s2rth: python seems nice
(9:47:34 PM) s2rth: we can code less
(9:48:14 PM) santhosh: manu, I have wrote a small crawler in python
(9:48:16 PM) s2rth: and good effect… i feel so
(9:48:16 PM) santhosh: just 100 lines
(9:48:16 PM) santhosh: many apis are there
(9:48:16 PM) santhosh: learning a new language is not a problem
(9:48:16 PM) s2rth: may i see the code?
(9:48:19 PM) tvmanukrishnan: yeah but I don’t have much referance books or so and another thing, still not configured my GPRS modem in debian so that I could refer net from there
(9:48:29 PM) santhosh: if u have a computer scientist approach
(9:48:37 PM) santhosh: am I right? others?
(9:48:41 PM) smash_: oh… great..
(9:48:48 PM) smash_: great work santhosh..
(9:48:51 PM) s2rth: yea.
(9:49:17 PM) santhosh: I did not see any difficult in studying new language
(9:49:26 PM) santhosh: just undestand syntax, thats all
(9:49:30 PM) s2rth: i’m excited to read that 100 lines crawler 🙂
(9:49:42 PM) santhosh: rest is logic. and that is same for all languages
(9:49:45 PM) tvmanukrishnan: but different languages at the same time?
(9:49:46 PM) s2rth: but python is easier than any other lang
(9:49:48 PM) santhosh: I will send it to ypu guys
(9:50:20 PM) santhosh: manu, it is not difficult. actially it is more helpful
(9:50:40 PM) smash_: i too think python is the better choice..
(9:50:40 PM) santhosh: relating the concept with more languages
(9:50:42 PM) tvmanukrishnan: may be I’d switch to python but can anyone help me in configuring the GPRS modem?
(9:51:03 PM) santhosh: sarath, any idea with gprs modem?
(9:51:20 PM) tvmanukrishnan: and It will be great to use net from Debian
(9:51:39 PM) s2rth: no 🙁
(9:51:41 PM) santhosh: I never worked with gprs,
(9:51:41 PM) s2rth: me too never did
(9:51:41 PM) s2rth: in knoppix i had seen some gprs config utility
(9:51:41 PM) s2rth: try that
(9:51:41 PM) santhosh: manu, get help from shyam, enter some IRC and ask
(9:52:25 PM) jinsbond007 [i=c40c3509@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-28269d16ab79659a] entered the room.
(9:52:30 PM) aeshyamae: manu,come to me monday i have my class mate entering net from debian…controlling his debian from mobile with bluetooth and all
(9:52:42 PM) tvmanukrishnan: shyam told me abt a GPRS data connect software www.easyconnect.linuxuser.hu
(9:52:51 PM) tvmanukrishnan: but mine is data cabl
(9:53:07 PM) aeshyamae: hmm we will see
(9:53:37 PM) tvmanukrishnan: downloaded it. But still needs megs of software along withit, related to pearl to install
(9:54:13 PM) tvmanukrishnan: Shyam shall i give you my cable and phone tomorrow to you?
(9:54:42 PM) tvmanukrishnan: means monday?
(9:55:58 PM) santhosh: friends, hope you guys will be attending foss.in
(9:56:12 PM) santhosh: today they published the selected list of speakers
(9:56:18 PM) aeshyamae: i too have never tried bluetooth…ma friend should know that..we will talk abt that on monday
(9:56:34 PM) santhosh: myself, shyam,baiju are selected
(9:56:53 PM) santhosh: shyam, pramod sir is there?
(9:57:28 PM) aeshyamae: ya
(9:57:39 PM) smash_: yes… santhosh.
(9:57:41 PM) aeshyamae: he is talking abt free bird
(9:57:41 PM) santhosh: Pramode C.E – FreeBird – A GNU/Linux based mobile robotics platform for introductory Computer Science and Engineering education.
(9:57:41 PM) santhosh: yes, he is there
(9:57:51 PM) s2rth: Freebird.. sounds very interesting
(9:58:29 PM) santhosh: did you watch the video?
(9:58:29 PM) aeshyamae: GREAT!! to see free bird in his blogg..debian,cameraa,…….!!!!
(9:58:29 PM) aeshyamae: no
(9:58:29 PM) santhosh: it is amazing
(10:00:30 PM) santhosh: he has uploaded that video in google video
(10:00:30 PM) santhosh: shyam, link is there in his blog
(10:00:30 PM) s2rth: yea i saw the video
(10:00:31 PM) aeshyamae: ya,,ok i saw that yesturday but have to wait till the next unlimited time to download it..its bandwidth dieting here:)i am just touching my 2.5gb limit this month
(10:00:31 PM) santhosh: friends, think about a gnu robot speaking malayalam and understanding malayalam
(10:00:31 PM) aeshyamae: 🙂
(10:00:34 PM) santhosh: I think he has a plan to do that
(10:01:22 PM) s2rth: 🙂
(10:04:28 PM) santhosh: അപ്പഴേ ഞാന്‍ പോണൂ, മനു ഞാന്‍ പറഞ്ഞ പ്രൊജക്ടിനെ പറ്റി ചിന്തിക്കൂ.
(10:04:48 PM) santhosh: ബാക്കിയുള്ളോര്‍ക്ക് എന്റെ ഹര്‍ത്താലാശംസകള്‍
(10:04:59 PM) s2rth: 🙂
(10:05:00 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I just googled abt web crawlers and found most are programmed in java
(10:05:55 PM) santhosh: ശരത്, ഞാന്‍ ക്രോളര്‍ അയച്ചു തരാം
(10:06:59 PM) tvmanukrishnan: For me too… that crawler
(10:07:31 PM) s2rth: ok 🙂
(10:07:43 PM) santhosh: മനൂ മെയിലൈഡി പറ
(10:08:07 PM) tvmanukrishnan: tvm@bizzard.info
(10:10:12 PM) santhosh: എല്ലാവര്‍ക്കും വേണ്ടി ഞാനൊരു പാട്ടു പാടാം
(10:10:18 PM) santhosh: എന്നിട്ടു പോകാം
(10:10:19 PM) aeshyamae: haha:)
(10:10:26 PM) tvmanukrishnan: k
(10:10:27 PM) santhosh: ചിത്രം: ചില്ല്
(10:10:28 PM) santhosh: രചന: ഒ. എന്‍. വി
(10:10:28 PM) santhosh: ഒരു വട്ടം കൂടിയെന്നോര്‍മ്മകള്‍ മേയുന്ന
(10:10:28 PM) santhosh: തിരുമുറ്റത്തെത്തുവാന്‍ മോഹം
(10:10:28 PM) santhosh: തിരുമുറ്റത്തൊരു കോണില്‍ നില്‍ക്കുന്നൊരാ നെല്ലി-
(10:10:32 PM) santhosh left the room (quit: Excess Flood).
(10:11:26 PM) s2rth: hostel jailil irunnu madukkumbol computer use cheyyan moham…
(10:11:50 PM) s2rth: gnu/linux boot cheyyan moham
(10:12:30 PM) s2rth: 😀
(10:13:16 PM) s2rth: shyam, wat abt advancement of sharika
(10:13:17 PM) s2rth: ?
(10:14:46 PM) aeshyamae: 🙁 will try to release soon…hopes to release it as a standard..doing something on each part it should have
(10:14:59 PM) s2rth: k
(10:15:46 PM) jinsbond007: hi all nice to see lively discussions ovr here…
(10:18:24 PM) tvmanukrishnan: I have got a bad cold and lot of college works to do…. And also, a new site: for Orkut scraps collection…. just started: http://www.bizzard.info/scrapper/ So, catch you all later…..
(10:18:29 PM) tvmanukrishnan: Gud Ni8
(10:18:45 PM) tvmanukrishnan: and thanks for the nice discussion